Default Breaststroke Leg Kick

I have a problem with default breaststroke leg kick with some of my pupils. I'm a level 2 swim teacher a have 2 boys age approx 8 and 10 that default to breastroke legs with every stroke, especially in fly and when they don't totally focus on crawl leg technique ie if taking a breath. I'm trying to alter their default. We have tried demos, watching themselves, realignment, swimming on sides, visual technique on their backs, to name a few. I haven't tried fins yet but am reluctant to do so as they are young and only casually swim. Thank you for your opinion.


Thanks for contacting me. It sounds like these 2 boys are putting you to the test!

From your question, it sounds like you have 2 different but similar problems: breaststroke kick when swimming butterfly, and a breaststroke kick when breathing for front crawl. If so, then these are both common.

I have experienced the exact same problems on a number of occasions and the cure is never a quick fix.

It sounds like you have tried all the obvious teaching methods, but here are a few things from my experience for you to consider...

Firstly fins are not a bad thing at all at this stage. They will assist in correcting leg kick technique and add a sense of fun to the lesson. They don't have to be advanced or squad swimmers to get some benefits from fins. Fins will most certainly help with breaststroke legs during fly, especially if they are well practiced in dolphin kick.

Breaststroke kicking during front crawl breathing can take some time to cure. One thing to keep in mind here is that they naturally kick breaststroke when they need to breathe, and it is this association with breathing that could be causing the problem. This could also account for why demos, visuals and watching themselves on their back does not fix the issue, because there is no link with breathing.

I used a combination of 2 methods to cure this, one of which was fairly drastic! If you teach from in the water and are able to follow them as they swim (walking is easier and you will have to do this with one boy at a time), grab their legs every time they breathe and go to kick to prevent the breaststroke kick.

This kind of physical intervention will immediately bring to their attention what they are doing wrong and when they are doing it, more so than visuals and demos.

Then get them so swim a length of front crawl and tell them you will be counting how many breaststroke kicks they do. At the end of the length you will give them their score. Less than 5 breaststroke kicks is bronze standard, less than 3 is silver and zero kicks is the gold standard. (adjust the numbers however you want.) This type of scoring thing not only makes them think what they are doing, but adds a sense of competitiveness and fun to the lesson.

These are only ideas from my own personal experience and sometimes plain old patience and perseverance is what is needed. I hope I have helped somehow.

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Thanks for your advice
by: Tanya

Thank you so much Mark, yes I will ask their mother and see if am allowed to get in and touch their feet every time they breastroke kick. I'll also try the counting and fins. Actually might go for fins first it's so difficult to do breastroke kick fins this might be the answer. Also thought i might ask the boys to put a air of socks on so they can feel the water better before we try fins.

I really appreciate your advice and will let you know how I get on.

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